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I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard someone dismiss email marketing as “old-school” or “not worth it.” Email marketing is the underdog in digital marketing that just never dies. You can’t beat an inbox for connecting directly with your audience.

If you’re ready to find out why this method still reigns supreme, keep reading.

In this lesson, I explore the power and importance of email marketing as a reliable tool in a crowded digital landscape. We start by discussing why email marketing remains a cornerstone of digital strategies, highlighting its ability to drive conversions more effectively than social media. I also cover how to set up a successful email marketing strategy, from building a targeted list to defining clear goals and KPIs. By choosing the right tools and crafting engaging emails, you can ensure long-term success.

Start Reading Foundational Guide

In this lesson, we’ll cover the essential steps to building a successful email list from scratch. I’ll guide you through the importance of email marketing as a direct and controllable tool for business growth, and explore effective strategies for rapidly growing your list. You’ll learn the differences between single and double opt-in methods, how to select the right email service provider, and create compelling lead magnets. Additionally, we’ll discuss segmentation, automation, and best practices to nurture your list and maximize conversions.

Start Reading List Building

In this lesson, you’ll discover how email marketing tools can simplify and enhance your marketing efforts. I’ll guide you through key features to look for, including automation, segmentation, personalization, and analytics. You’ll learn how to choose the right platform based on your business needs and explore popular tools like Mailchimp and ConvertKit. Additionally, I’ll share tips for scaling your campaigns and avoiding common mistakes, helping you create effective email marketing strategies that engage and convert.

Start Reading Tools & Software

In this lesson, I will guide you through the essential components of writing better emails that engage and drive action. We’ll explore why email marketing remains a powerful tool, despite new trends in digital marketing, and how to craft emails that feel personal and authentic. You will learn how to write compelling subject lines, strong openings, and effective CTAs, while avoiding common pitfalls. I’ll also share strategies for growing and segmenting your email list to maximize relevance and engagement.

Start Reading Copywriting & Messaging

In this lesson, I will guide you through the fundamentals of A/B testing in email marketing. You’ll learn how to optimize key elements of your emails, such as subject lines, CTAs, and design, to improve open rates, click-throughs, and conversions. I’ll walk you through setting up, analyzing, and iterating on tests, with a focus on avoiding common pitfalls. By the end, you’ll be equipped to make data-driven decisions to enhance your email campaigns and boost performance.

Start Reading A/B Testing & Optimization

In this lesson, we will explore how to effectively leverage email marketing as a reliable revenue engine. You will learn how to set clear objectives, build and segment your email list, and craft compelling emails that drive engagement. We’ll dive into measuring success through key metrics, discuss common pitfalls, and examine the balance between personalization and privacy. By the end, you’ll be equipped with actionable strategies to create, execute, and optimize your email marketing campaigns.

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Shane Barker
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Data-Driven Marketing 101 with Araks Nalbandyan

Host Shane Barker and guest Araks Nalbandyan, Director of Digital Marketing at 10Web, explore how agencies can harness data to transform their marketing strategies. They discuss using tools like Data Studio and Google Analytics to track performance, optimize ecommerce campaigns, and overcome communication challenges. This engaging conversation delivers practical insights for agencies eager to boost client satisfaction and achieve sustainable business growth.

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Today's guest...
Araks Nalbandyan

Araksya Nalbandyan is the Director of Marketing at Repurpose.io, a cutting-edge automation platform empowering content creators to expand reach effortlessly across multiple channels. She leads brand strategy, user acquisition, and multi-channel campaigns, fueling Repurpose.io’s vision to redefine how podcasts and videos get repurposed in the digital space.

Before joining Repurpose.io, Araksya held leadership roles at several tech companies, spearheading data-driven strategies and forging strategic partnerships that delivered measurable growth. With a background in SEO, content marketing, and funnel optimization, she excels at transforming marketing frameworks to meet evolving industry demands.

Committed to fostering a vibrant creator community, Araksya regularly shares her insights through webinars, workshops, and thought leadership. Her hands-on approach, coupled with analytical rigor, ensures Repurpose.io stays ahead in a competitive market. Beyond her role, Araksya advocates for personal development and champions forward-thinking strategies that empower marketers, entrepreneurs, and brands to thrive online. She remains passionate about driving innovation.

Episode Show Notes

In this edition of The Marketing Growth Podcast, where host Shane Barker dives into the essentials of data-driven marketing with guest Araks Nalbandyan, Director of Digital Marketing at 10Web. In this episode, Araks explains why agencies must adopt a data-centric mindset to unlock smarter strategies and improved client outcomes. She details how tracking key metrics—such as customer satisfaction and internal performance indicators—can illuminate strengths and pinpoint areas needing improvement.

Araks shares real-life examples from her experience, including a case where detailed data analysis led to a successful ecommerce campaign. By narrowing the focus and using precise reporting tools, her team was able to demonstrate clear results and win over new clients. The conversation also explores the challenges agencies face when collecting and consolidating data from various communication channels, emphasizing the need for clear, unified reporting to capture the complete picture of customer behavior.

Listeners are encouraged to review their current data practices, adopt robust tracking tools like Data Studio and Google Analytics, and transform raw numbers into actionable insights. Whether you’re refining your ecommerce strategy or simply looking to enhance your overall approach, this episode provides a practical roadmap for making informed, data-driven decisions that lead to sustained agency growth.

Brands mentioned

  • 10Web
  • WordPress
  • Data Studio
  • Google Analytics
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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
00:00-00:23

Welcome to the Marketing Growth Podcast. I’m your host, Shane Barker, and today I have with me Araks Nalbandyan, the Director of Digital Marketing at 10Web. On the last episode, we discussed how agencies can make themselves stand out in a saturated market. This time, we’re going to dive into something more complex.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
00:26-00:54

So, I want to switch gears a little bit. I want to talk about a more data-driven approach for agencies, because I think there are a lot of agencies that don’t rely on data, and I really think they should.

Data gives us a nice historic view of what’s happened, and I think it’s important to assess that, because decisions should be made based on data. Or at least they should be. If you’re not, then you really should be. What do you think? Why do you think it’s important for agencies to have a data-driven approach?

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Araks Nalbandyan

Speaker 2
00:55-02:06

It’s actually very important for every company, and for agencies as well. Because we talk a lot about customers and providing good service, I think one of the first data points agencies need to track is their NPS (Net Promoter Score), which helps track customer happiness, concerns, and areas for improvement. In my opinion, that’s one of the greatest metrics agencies can track. It helps them understand how to approach new customers, identify areas needing improvement, and provide a comprehensive report for clients.

Additionally, agencies should track data specific to each client—like SEO performance based on their business goals—so they can provide real, solid reports on progress and results.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
02:06-02:36

Gotcha. That makes sense. There’s so much internal information from your current clients that people miss out on, right? Sometimes the feedback is good, sometimes it’s bad, but it’s important to know that bad feedback right away so you can assess it and make changes for future clients. That makes total sense.

So, tell us a little about your experience leveraging data to grow agencies. I know you’ve worked with a few in the past. What were some strategies you used to leverage data and grow those agencies?

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Araks Nalbandyan

Speaker 2
02:37-03:23

Yes, probably the main data we tracked was how many customers we got for the clients and how we did it. At one agency, through the data, we found that we were really good at eCommerce marketing. We knew how to deliver, and our eCommerce clients were the most satisfied. So, we built a whole campaign attracting more eCommerce clients. We narrowed down the focus, but even eCommerce is a huge field, so we attracted clients we knew we could provide great service to and show results. That helped shape the agency’s overall strategy as well.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
03:24-04:14

Yeah, eCommerce isn’t easy. There are so many moving pieces. You have to drive traffic, convert it, and then keep the customers coming back for more. It’s a cycle. The process of putting it all together is tough, but once you have a solid case study and after your first few didn’t go well, you learn from them. Once you get one that goes well, you can apply all that knowledge and see success. That’s awesome.

So, what do you think are some of the challenges agencies face when trying to implement a data-driven approach?

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Araks Nalbandyan

Speaker 2
04:15-05:06

Yeah, probably the biggest challenge is the communication between clients and account managers. It’s mostly done online now, and there are different chats, video calls, and ways to gather that data. Agencies need to combine all this data to understand how satisfied their clients are and what their needs are, so they can better understand the target audience for future customers. It can be challenging, as the communication is usually one-on-one between account managers and clients. Agencies need to make sure they’re getting the whole picture when account managers report to other team members.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
05:06-06:01

Yeah, definitely. There are a lot of good things that can come from that, but there are also things you need to watch out for, right? It’s important to understand how to apply data to improve things for customers. I love that it’s very customer-centric—looking at situations and saying, “How can we keep our customers 100% happy and even go above that?” It’s always hard to get to that next level, but I think surveys, asking those questions, and making assessments are key. If you haven’t started assessing your audience or customers yet to see what you can do to make them happier, now’s the time. You’re getting the notice right now—go check on your customers to see if they’re happy!

As a data-driven marketer yourself, what are some of your favorite tools that you currently use?

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Araks Nalbandyan

Speaker 2
06:03-06:43

Well, we use a lot of tools, but I’d say my favorite is Data Studio. It’s a great tool for creating funnel reports and combining data from different sources like Google Analytics. We have our own tracking tool for our product, and we combine everything in one place to generate any kind of report we need. It’s a great tool to see where we have issues and where we need to work on improvements.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
06:44-07:25

Awesome. It’s funny, I’ve been looking at your website and what you’ve done. At first, I thought, “Oh, it’s just web hosting.” But it’s so much more than that. You’ve got the AI builder, and it feels like there’s a lot going on—so many amazing tools. At first, I thought it was pretty simple, but then I realized there’s so much more to it. I wish I had known about you guys a few years ago when we were moving stuff over. It would have been so much easier! Moving websites is never an easy process, but it seems like you’ve made it almost “stupid easy” to use. That’s awesome.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
07:27-07:40

Great insights, Araks. It’s been an informational episode, and I’m sure listeners now know how to leverage data-driven marketing. In the next episode, we’ll continue the conversation and talk about the future of data-driven marketing. Stay tuned to the Marketing Growth Podcast.

00:00
Introduction to Araks Nalbandyan & Data-Driven Agencies
00:26
Why Agencies Should Rely on Data
02:06
Leveraging Data to Improve Agency Performance
03:24
The Challenges of Implementing a Data-Driven Approach
05:06
The Importance of Client Feedback & Surveys
06:03
Best Tools for Data-Driven Marketing
06:44
The Power of Automation in Digital Agencies
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