
Pros and Cons of Bootstrapping a Business with Rytis Lauris, Co-Founder & CEO of Omnisend
with Shane Barker
Host Shane Barker and Omnisend CEO Rytis Lauris dive into the realities of bootstrapping a business versus embracing a customer-funded model. Rytis details early challenges, the creative drive born of limited resources, and the importance of prioritizing customer needs over investor demands. This candid discussion offers actionable insights for entrepreneurs determined to grow sustainably—even when starting from scratch. Today’s chat is both inspiring and refreshingly honest.


Rytis Lauris is the Co-founder and CEO of Omnisend, a leading e-commerce marketing automation platform that helps online merchants drive sales and build customer loyalty. Under his guidance, Omnisend has grown into a globally recognized solution, empowering thousands of brands with personalized, data-driven marketing campaigns across email, SMS, and more.
Before establishing Omnisend, Rytis built a strong track record in digital marketing and entrepreneurship, founding several ventures and developing innovative SaaS products. His hands-on experience with e-commerce merchants inspired him to create a platform bridging the gap between business needs and robust marketing automation technologies.
A frequent speaker at e-commerce events, Rytis has been recognized by industry publications for his forward-thinking approach to omnichannel marketing. Under his guidance, Omnisend powers tens of thousands of online stores worldwide, delivering seamless customer engagement and higher conversions. He also mentors aspiring entrepreneurs, actively advancing innovation across the global SaaS ecosystem.
Episode Show Notes
In today’s episode of The Marketing Growth Podcast, Shane sits down with Rytis Lauris, CEO of Omnisend, to explore the pros and cons of bootstrapping a business. Rytis opens up about his journey from struggling with initial revenue challenges to evolving a customer-funded model that redefines bootstrapping. He explains that, in the early years, finding a sustainable pricing model was tough—but embracing customer-funded growth meant every dollar was earned by delivering real value. This approach forces you to focus relentlessly on customer pain points and creative problem-solving, ensuring that every improvement is driven by actual market needs.
Rytis also contrasts bootstrapping with traditional VC funding, warning that taking external cash can shift your focus away from the customer and toward meeting investor metrics. He shares hard-earned lessons about maintaining lean operations, experimenting within tight constraints, and scaling organically. The conversation is candid, insightful, and peppered with humorous anecdotes about travel, superpower wishes, and the reality of entrepreneurship. Whether you’re a startup founder or a seasoned entrepreneur, this episode offers valuable takeaways on managing business growth while staying true to your customers’ needs.
Books mentioned
- The Hard Thing About Hard Things by Ben Horowitz
Brands mentioned
- Omnisend


Another thing I wanted to talk about is your success in bootstrapping your business. I know how hard it is to grow a business, and for my audience—small, medium‑sized, and enterprise businesses—I also want to discuss what it takes to bootstrap a company.
You have over 100 employees, you’re helping over 50,000 stores, and you’re operating in 130 countries in six or seven years. That’s no easy feat—I talk to a lot of people and work with many companies.
I’d like to pick your brain: what were the pros and cons of choosing to bootstrap your business? Feel free to take us back to the beginning.

Rytis Lauris
At the very beginning it took us a couple of years to really start earning some money. The initial two years after launch of a product it was still a side business and the digital marketing agency was the main business. We saw good initial traction—people were exploring our product—but we didn’t manage to find the right pricing model to really start earning some cash. That was the initial challenge.
In the past five years, after we identified where the monetizable value for our customers is, it took off.
Initially we were trying to raise money, but email seemed old school and we were a done deal. I would go to a VC and say, “Okay, I’m going to produce leather shoes.” And he would say, “Come on, it’s chat bots, all those sexy things and email. Who cares about email?” We just didn’t succeed in raising money because nobody was interested in investing in us. Now I’m really happy that it happened.
We don’t call ourselves bootstrapped; we call ourselves customer funded. I like that. Customer funded is a tweak and a different approach. We don’t have annual contracts, so our customers pay us on a monthly basis. That means each month we have to fundraise and prove our value for 10s of 1000s of merchants. That’s the biggest pro of this model: you have to put your customers and their needs at the core of everything. Otherwise you’re going to fail. It’s way better, because once you raise some cash from VCs, they become your main customers. As a business, you have to multiply value for them, and your customers are only the tool to multiply your investors’ investment. Bootstrapping—or being customer funded—is completely different because your customer and your investor are exactly the same. You put your customer at the very core of everything.
So that’s the main pro, the cost. Once I didn’t see much.

Yeah, I gotta keep my company. I love the way you look at things. I love the way you look at that because it really does.
The minute you take $1 from a VC—and I’m not saying don’t—there are upsides and downsides. One downside is you’re giving up a piece of your company and someone else—another CEO—could push you out of the way if they want to, and sometimes that’s needed. But the good part of what you said is, if you have VC money, you’re playing for the VC—you’re not playing for the customers as much as you are now.
If they’re saying, ‘You need to do this, this, this, and this,’ and you say, ‘But the customer needs this, this, this, and this,’ you still have to generate sales in a way that may not be best for the customer. It’s best for the VC because you need to hit certain multiples or numbers.
That’s an interesting way of looking at things, because you have a wife and a girlfriend and you’re trying to figure out who to spend time with. That becomes a difficult situation. I’ve never had a wife and a girlfriend, but I’ve heard from friends that it’s difficult. My wife is amazing, so why would I find a girlfriend?
But that’s the hard part, and that’s funny. When you said that, it made total sense to me.
Now you’re hustling for somebody else because you have to use the money fast. You have to do this, and it’s a different situation and mindset because you have to change things up.
I love that. I love customer funded. It’s so much better, because ‘bootstrap’ sounds like a guy in big boots.
Customer funded means people are saying, ‘I’m gonna give you some more money this month because you’re doing a great job and giving us great features.’ So I love that.

Rytis Lauris
Now, in our case, it’s practical: our customers pay in advance for the upcoming month. We believe we’ll create value for that month, so they pay upfront.
Bootstrapping usually means funding something out of your own pocket or being wealthy enough to self‑fund the business.
Another great pro of being customer funded is having constraints that force you to find the most creative ways to grow. You have limitations and no cash to burn, which means when you’re running multiple endless experiments at the same time, you have to be more selective about which strategies you apply to go to market. That’s something I love, and I really admire people working under those constraints because it unleashes their creativity, even though it’s not easy.

Yeah, it’s always easier when you get VC money. But the problem is, there’s going to be a point where you have a certain burn rate and you’re doing certain things, and if it doesn’t work, you’ve just wasted a lot of money.
That’s when you’re grimy and bootstrapping and saying, “Hey, listen, we got to evaluate every dollar because we don’t always know if that next dollar is coming.” You have to add new features, test new things, and constantly pivot in whatever direction you need to go to keep the business going.
I definitely have a lot of respect for people with VC money. That’s awesome, but people who have actually done it without VC money—it’s a different ball game for sure. Everything happens for a reason. You were told no at the door of a VC multiple times—you wish they had invested, huh? Now look at us, huh? Email marketing still works. I told you. That’s funny.
So do you have any tips for entrepreneurs starting off who need to bootstrap their business? Anything you learned through that whole process?

Rytis Lauris
So I would say—as I said—for a couple of years we were struggling to find monetizable customer pain. That’s the main thing: find the monetizable customer pain. What kind of pain for that customer? What kind of customers can you solve? And if you start solving this problem for your customers, they will be willing to pay you less, of course, than what you help them earn or save—but you can increase their revenue if it’s B2B.
I don’t know much about B2C businesses—being transparent—so I can’t give smart advice for those starting a B2C startup outside of e‑commerce. I know a lot about e‑commerce, but for SaaS or B2C startups, I don’t have much experience. B2B is really all about creating value for businesses. So identify that pain and start solving it. That’s the most important thing. Continuously do that, because there will be more competitors appearing and the market is always changing. Keep your focus on monetizable customer pain.
The second tip I would always give is: start doing now. The same as the tip for e‑commerce marketers—when to start email and SMS marketing, the best time is now. The same for any business: start doing now and bring to the market as soon as you can. It’s going to be a rough product initially, but that’s where you start.

Yeah. I mean, once again, everybody has, everybody’s product they brought to market was terrible, right? I mean, that’s just how it is, because it’s not going to be perfect.

Rytis Lauris
Respectively, back back to what kind of product we were like four years ago, I can’t imagine why someone was paying for that.

Yeah. That’s the thing. They were paying for it. Now you have all these great features. Now it’s worth it—now it’s worth the price. Back then it was, “Please keep playing. We know it’s not great,” or maybe we thought it was great but didn’t know there was another level to making it great. Now we do, and we apologize. We’ll continue to work hard for you, add more features, and get more people to like the product. I love that.
So you have over 100 employees? How many offices do you have? You guys are all over.

Rytis Lauris
Yeah, we currently have close to 150 employees. We have four physical offices: about 130 of those are based in Europe, and around 20 are in the United States, which is our main market revenue‑wise. The United States and Canada are significant for us, so business development and customer success management are based there.
We’re a hybrid organization with physical offices and remote workers. Currently we’re all remote, but when it’s not COVID it’s a hybrid model. Some people work remotely around the globe, and some are in our offices. We prefer our engineering and product teams to meet a few times a week in the office, while go‑to‑market, marketing, and partnerships teams can work from anywhere.

Yeah that makes sense. And then are you willing to tell us? What is your MMR, where are you guys at man, I know you guys have been been striking away at this thing and doing big things. You mind letting the audience know where you’re at with that?

Rytis Lauris
Yeah, that’s okay. Yeah, we are. It’s 2 million monthly revenue.

You’ve got a big old smile on your face. This is a podcast, and you’ve been nothing but smiling. You mentioned two million—you gave me the serious face—but I know you must be excited about that. That’s awesome.
You’ve built something incredible. Now I see the big old smile. Congratulations. You’ve really worked your butts off to get here. That’s huge.
I think we’ve pulled enough information from the genius himself on SMS and email marketing. Now we’re moving into our fun section. I don’t mean the other sections weren’t fun—we had a great time—but these questions are outside of business.
This one will be interesting since you’re a traveler. You said, “Listen, I’m used to traveling and moving and shaking.” If there were one place in the world you could go for free—COVID‑free, no mask required—where would it be?

Rytis Lauris
Yeah, because it’s COVID. So you know, when you just ask a question first, first idea was, anywhere, anywhere, where can I can fly. I can pay for that. That’s okay. No need to get it for free.

I know I threw it for free. That way, you don’t have to worry about it.

Rytis Lauris
You know, if it’s like, free of charge, so, and if it’s a trip. So I would kind of like, you know, go around the globe. I would like to travel like, let’s say, around the globe in one week, just to sprint. There’s no one sole place, which I would say is probably the most favorite for me, where being or maybe I’m just dreaming to go, but yeah.

Why not? You want to go all over the world and see different places, because it’s on me and it’s free. Why wouldn’t you take advantage of it?
Most people—I’m like, okay, I could pay for you to go to one place, but you want to see the whole world—that’s more expensive. I’ll have to talk to the team about funding your world trip. Please do.
It was funny in one of my past interviews: the guy I was interviewing asked if he was taking his family or not. I thought that was hilarious. He said, “I just want to know if I’m bringing them or not, because that’s going to be a different trip.” I said, “Is one trip like Vegas if your wife’s not going, and if she is going, it’s like Hawaii?” I loved that.
I spoke in Sri Lanka maybe two years ago and didn’t realize how close the Maldives was. I was at a Cinnamon Hotel in Sri Lanka, and everyone asked if I was going to the Maldives afterward. I said, “No—how far is it?” They said hours. I couldn’t believe it. I didn’t want to take my wife; I wanted to be at the most romantic place in the world and hang out by myself. So I didn’t make it to the Maldives, but that’s definitely on my list.

Rytis Lauris
So that’s exactly what we did, was, yes, with my wife going to Sri Lanka and then Maldives, as they are pretty close. So definitely recommend anyone going, planning to go to Sri Lanka that you have to take a break at Maldives for some days.

I’m going to definitely be heading out to Sri Lanka again, and also to the Maldives as well. So all right, I got another question for you. So if you could choose any kind of superpower, what would your superpower be?

Rytis Lauris
To clone myself.

That’s a good idea—when nobody suggested cloning yourself. I told my wife, “I’m thinking about cloning myself.” She said, “That’s a terrible idea. I don’t think we need two of you in this world.”
I asked, “Is that a bad thing? Or do you just not want to?” I explained the clone could help out—maybe work on the house while I’m working. She said, “Maybe, but I just don’t know if we need that.”
I didn’t know whether to take offense or if we’re still good. Then I thought, “Maybe I’m the clone—I’m the second version of Shane and she doesn’t know it.”

Rytis Lauris
But Shane, I mean, if you promised your wife to, kind of like to leave your second second yourself somewhere outside your house, and actually that you she should never have to interact with two of you, maybe she would be one of you is always at the home or, like, assisting her, helping her. So you know it’s all about and I believe it could be conditional.

I think we’d have to come to terms—probably with an attorney—and say, okay, two Shanes can’t be in the same room. This Shane has to be working over here, maybe in a little private area. You just feed him a little food and water, and then the other Shane will be out. Maybe this second Shane will have a better body and can have his shirt off. The first Shane can’t have his shirt off; I don’t know. Anyway, there are a lot of details to work out. But I like that—cloning would be nice, because you could divide and conquer. Literally, divide and conquer. You can split up your DNA and make it happen. I like that. That’s a good one.
What about any favorite books or podcasts that you listen to that have shaped your career or personality? Anything fun that’s your go‑to?

Rytis Lauris
Probably the best business book I’ve ever read is Hard Thing About Hard Things by Ben Horowitz, because it’s the only business book which I really read about failures. All the rest of the business books are about success stories, which, of course, sometimes admit it wasn’t an overnight success but a really long, difficult path. This is the only book which is really about all the struggles you always have. Anyone who does business has struggles, but nobody talks about them. Especially when you’re younger and just starting, inexperienced, and you think everybody around you is succeeding. You read so many blogs and books and feel like a loser if your business fails on the first attempt. So I think that’s a must‑read book for any business person.
For personality, the book which made the biggest impact on me I read when I was a teenager: Paulo Kelly or Val Chemist. It’s a very popular book, and the thing I really took from it is that the entire world helps you if you’re living your own dream. So follow your dream and the world will help you. That’s something I learned by heart, and it proves itself.

I love that. It’s funny when they talk about overnight successes and quotes like, “It only took me ten years to be an overnight success.” That’s not realistic. As entrepreneurs, we have to be willing to take punches and accept that it’s hard.
A lot of people look at this and say, “You built the company like that? That’s amazing,” but I don’t know if they know what it takes. I built one of my old businesses to 130 employees in two years. That growth was insane. People don’t understand how much you go through as an entrepreneur. Being an entrepreneur is not easy, and not everyone can do it. That’s why I give Omnisend so much kudos—building something like that successfully is phenomenal.
We’ll include the books Rytis mentioned in the show notes. If anyone wants to contact you or learn more about Omnisend, how do they do that?

Rytis Lauris
Yeah, so for Omnisend, the best place to start is omnisend.com. There’s a blog and Resource Center about the platform—feel free to test it out. It’s self‑service, so you can explore and find plenty of resources.
Personally, I prefer LinkedIn or Twitter for communication. I don’t use Facebook, but email is a solid option. Again, that’s omnisend.com.

Email. I’ve heard about email. I wish we should do a podcast about that. Maybe that’s what we’ll do next. That’s a great idea.

Rytis Lauris
I would really recommend. Yeah, email is still, is still good channel for for marketing. I’ve heard somewhere. So maybe you should consider doing this topic.

That’s awesome—you’ve got a killer topic lined up! Email marketing really is pure gold. If you’d like a hand sketching out that next episode—whether it’s nailing down an outline, picking the hottest sub‑topics (welcome series, segmentation, automation workflows, ROI tracking), or even brainstorming guests—just say the word.
What angle are you thinking of taking? Beginners’ basics, advanced growth hacks, or maybe a deep dive into real‑world success stories? Let me know and we’ll make sure your audience walks away with plenty of “aha” moments.

Thanks, Rytis for those amazing insights. It’s no secret that bootstrapping a business is challenging, but today, you shed some light on some more rewarding alternatives to bootstrapping. I’m sure that aspiring entrepreneurs listening are super excited to try that one out. A big thank you to our listeners for joining us today. Stay tuned for another exciting conversation on our next episode of The Marketing Growth Podcast.