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I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard someone dismiss email marketing as “old-school” or “not worth it.” Email marketing is the underdog in digital marketing that just never dies. You can’t beat an inbox for connecting directly with your audience.

If you’re ready to find out why this method still reigns supreme, keep reading.

In this lesson, I explore the power and importance of email marketing as a reliable tool in a crowded digital landscape. We start by discussing why email marketing remains a cornerstone of digital strategies, highlighting its ability to drive conversions more effectively than social media. I also cover how to set up a successful email marketing strategy, from building a targeted list to defining clear goals and KPIs. By choosing the right tools and crafting engaging emails, you can ensure long-term success.

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In this lesson, we’ll cover the essential steps to building a successful email list from scratch. I’ll guide you through the importance of email marketing as a direct and controllable tool for business growth, and explore effective strategies for rapidly growing your list. You’ll learn the differences between single and double opt-in methods, how to select the right email service provider, and create compelling lead magnets. Additionally, we’ll discuss segmentation, automation, and best practices to nurture your list and maximize conversions.

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In this lesson, you’ll discover how email marketing tools can simplify and enhance your marketing efforts. I’ll guide you through key features to look for, including automation, segmentation, personalization, and analytics. You’ll learn how to choose the right platform based on your business needs and explore popular tools like Mailchimp and ConvertKit. Additionally, I’ll share tips for scaling your campaigns and avoiding common mistakes, helping you create effective email marketing strategies that engage and convert.

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In this lesson, I will guide you through the essential components of writing better emails that engage and drive action. We’ll explore why email marketing remains a powerful tool, despite new trends in digital marketing, and how to craft emails that feel personal and authentic. You will learn how to write compelling subject lines, strong openings, and effective CTAs, while avoiding common pitfalls. I’ll also share strategies for growing and segmenting your email list to maximize relevance and engagement.

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In this lesson, I will guide you through the fundamentals of A/B testing in email marketing. You’ll learn how to optimize key elements of your emails, such as subject lines, CTAs, and design, to improve open rates, click-throughs, and conversions. I’ll walk you through setting up, analyzing, and iterating on tests, with a focus on avoiding common pitfalls. By the end, you’ll be equipped to make data-driven decisions to enhance your email campaigns and boost performance.

Start Reading A/B Testing & Optimization

In this lesson, we will explore how to effectively leverage email marketing as a reliable revenue engine. You will learn how to set clear objectives, build and segment your email list, and craft compelling emails that drive engagement. We’ll dive into measuring success through key metrics, discuss common pitfalls, and examine the balance between personalization and privacy. By the end, you’ll be equipped with actionable strategies to create, execute, and optimize your email marketing campaigns.

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Shane Barker
Digital Marketing Expert
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How To Create a Winning Video Content Marketing Strategy with Lisa Buyer

In this engaging chat, Shane Barker hosts Lisa Buyer, CEO of The Buyer Group, for an inside look at successful video marketing. She reveals docu-series, Facebook Live, and other versatile ways to deliver authentic brand stories. By emphasizing storytelling over perfection, Lisa shows how teams conquer camera fears and build viewer trust. She also highlights video’s increasing role in modern marketing through creativity and wellness.

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Lisa Buyer

Lisa Buyer is the CEO of The Buyer Group, a forward-thinking public relations and social media agency recognized for bridging the gap between traditional PR and digital marketing. For more than a decade, she has partnered with global brands, startups, and entrepreneurs, helping them refine their brand messaging, amplify online visibility, and foster authentic audience engagement.

An accomplished author, Lisa penned Social PR Secrets, a go-to resource on leveraging social media to transform public relations efforts. Her insights have been featured in top industry publications, and she frequently appears as a keynote speaker at major marketing conferences worldwide.

With her commitment to innovative, data-driven strategies, Lisa continues to shape the modern communications landscape—guiding organizations in seamlessly integrating PR, social media, and digital marketing for sustainable growth and impact.

Episode Show Notes

On this episode of The Marketing Growth Podcast, host Shane Barker speaks with Lisa Buyer, CEO of The Buyer Group, about how to develop an effective video content marketing strategy. Lisa highlights why video is no longer optional and explains how even simple formats (like Facebook Live) can boost engagement without a heavy budget. She dives into the rising popularity of docu-series and web series, which let brands tell compelling stories in a dynamic, episodic format.

Lisa also shares practical tips on getting past the intimidation of being on camera, stressing that authenticity and storytelling are more important than perfection. She believes that well-structured, narrative-based videos eliminate the need for a hard sell—audiences respond best to brand messages delivered as genuine, helpful content. Additionally, Lisa explains how integrating video across social media and PR efforts expands reach and enhances customer relationships. Along with her own projects, from “Social PR Secrets” to “Female Disruptors,” Lisa demonstrates the power of combining wellness principles and creativity for standout campaigns. Tune in to learn fresh ideas for producing effective video content that resonates with viewers and drives measurable results.

Books mentioned

  • Social PR Secrets by Lisa Buyer

Brands mentioned

  • BeeLive
  • Lumen5
  • GoPro
  • Disney
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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
00:10-00:45

Welcome to the podcast. I am Shane Barker, your host of Shane Barker’s Marketing Madness Podcast. Today, we’re going to talk about video content marketing strategy. My guest, Lisa Buyer, is the founder and CEO of The Buyer Group, a boutique agency that specializes in public relations, social media, and branding. Listen as she discusses which videos are trending and how brands can build a killer video marketing strategy.

So cool. Let’s get this started. Lisa Buyer, welcome—really excited to have you. Thank you for spending some time with us today.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
00:45-00:47

Thank you for having me.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
00:47-00:52

Absolutely. So why don’t you give the audience a little background: where did you grow up? Give us a preview.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
00:53-01:16

Sure, sure. I grew up in Chicago and Miami—two very different, almost polar-opposite cities. Going from the Chicago suburbs to Miami back in the day was interesting. There was some culture shock, but it was exciting too. I went to the University of Florida, so Go Gators!

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
01:16-01:18

So that’s awesome. I was able to teach as an adjunct for a couple of years—social media management. So it’s funny how life goes full circle.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
01:18-01:28

So that’s awesome. And I was actually also able to teach as an adjunct for a couple years social media management. So kind of like fun going full circle. It’s funny.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
01:28-01:54

So when I was in Florida, I spent a few months consulting while my wife attended nursing school. She said, “Go do your consulting,” so I did. It’s amazing how huge the Gators’ fan base is—people don’t realize the magnitude. Everywhere you go, if you say “Go Gators,” it’s recognized. I’ve seen NFL teams that aren’t promoted or followed as loyally as the Gators. It was wild.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
01:54-02:07

Yeah, definitely. My household is divided—my husband graduated from UM, and my son graduated from FSU. So on certain football game days, we’re on separate sides for sure.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
02:08-02:12

Got it. Is there ever any violence or anything like that?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
02:12-02:14

Yeah, we try to keep it cool.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
02:14-02:23

That’s good, because we want to keep the violence down—especially in football. But I’m sure the bragging rights if one team wins can last until the next game.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
02:23-02:26

Exactly, exactly. We just have to pass the torch.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
02:26-02:45

Yeah, yeah. Hopefully you keep it, but if you have to pass it, that can be tough. So awesome—you definitely have different teams in your family, everyone rooting for their division. So how big was your family growing up? You were in Chicago, then Miami as well—where did you spend most of your time?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
02:46-03:24

Well, I grew up mainly in Miami. My mom was a single mom, and I had a sister, so we moved to Miami when I was in junior high. I mostly grew up in Miami with a single mom who taught me a lot—like how to take care of things most kids don’t typically handle. So I grew up fast, became responsible, and had a job at 14. I even learned to write checks and go grocery shopping in high school, just to help my mom out. I think that gave me the work ethic I have today—sometimes almost to a fault.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
03:25-03:41

Yeah, I think that’s a good thing. It’s interesting—sometimes people say millennials are lazy, and then you see somebody like you who’s unstoppable at 14 and even now.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
03:41-03:54

Yeah, definitely. It’s a different universe these days when it comes to life ethic and work ethic, depending on your outlook. It can vary a lot.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
03:55-04:00

Sure, for sure. So it was your mom, single mom, and you had a sister. Was she younger?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
04:00-04:38

My younger sister, yeah. I was a little bit in charge of her when Mom was working, so we grew up very close. I helped make sure she stayed on track after I graduated high school. Even though I went to college, I’d still come home and help ensure everything was taken care of. She didn’t know if she wanted to go to college—she started working early, like I did, and entered the corporate world, took off like crazy. Now she and her husband own a restaurant in Chicago called The Gondola.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
04:38-04:56

Nice, nice. I always love that—it’s why I ask these questions. I’m really intrigued by people’s paths. Not that you need college to be successful. These days, you see more examples of skipping college. Back in the day, it was, “Yeah, if you don’t finish college, you won’t make it.” But that’s not always true, especially with online training. There are so many things you can do online—it’s phenomenal.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
04:56-05:30

Yeah. I think it used to be more of a stigma. Now people are starting to grasp the idea of not going to college and doing certifications instead. And what’s the value of college when you’re paying huge tuition fees? So I’m not discounting college, but I think today there are more choices, and it’s not such a stigma to skip college. There are certifications, tech colleges, and entrepreneurship—which doesn’t need a degree.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
05:30-06:03

Especially now, with trainings online, it’s all accessible. You can learn anything you want, get involved in anything. If you really want to do whatever it is—PPC, open a restaurant—who do you go to for that knowledge? Fifteen years ago, the internet wasn’t around the way it is now, so you’d have to find someone in your family or just try it. Now you have access to so many resources and people who’ve done it successfully or unsuccessfully—it’s mind-blowing.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
06:03-06:43

Actually, it is. I mean, before you could Google anything or sign up for an online course like you can today, it was more about going to the library or buying books. That’s where you found resources—they were more physical. Now we have digital resources that let you do everything from get certified to work online. For example, one of my employees, Andy, was actually one of my students at UF—he’s getting his whole degree online through the University of Florida. So you don’t even have to go to a campus. It’s easier in some ways, but it also takes away that experience. Either way, we have options now we didn’t have before.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
06:44-07:05

Yeah, books and libraries—I’ve heard of those. I’ll Google them when I’m done here. (I’m kidding.) That is awesome. So you have a student who was part of your course at the University of Florida, and now they’re actually helping you in your company?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
07:05-07:09

Yeah, I actually have two of my former students—three of my former students—working with me now.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
07:10-07:38

That’s awesome, like internship style or working for you. Nice—well, they knew what they were getting into. I taught at UCLA, but only for a few quarters, still in their system. It’s funny— I’m not sure if I would’ve hired any of those students, but that’s mostly because I taught a later class, and they were already in their profession. It’s not that I wouldn’t have hired them; I just wouldn’t have had the opportunity. Let me rephrase that.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
07:38-07:58

Yeah. Well, if you think about it, it’s a great funnel—if you need interns or want to refer them to someone else who’s hiring. And obviously, I went to UF, but seriously, from the standpoint of the College of Journalism, the output of students… when someone graduates from UF, they have about two or three years of equivalent experience.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
07:59-08:01

So, put out a quality product…

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
08:01-08:02

Yeah, definitely.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
08:02-08:15

Awesome. Well, tell us something interesting about yourself growing up—something people don’t know. Nothing too private, unless you want to go there. Like, an interesting fact no one would expect…

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
08:15-09:19

Well, I have a couple I could think of. One is, when I was at UF, I put myself through school—like entrepreneurship—by hand-painting T-shirts and selling them to sorority girls. I ended up making extra money that way. I called it Designs by Lisa, so that was fun. Another interesting fact after I graduated: when I first got into the professional world, I worked for a family-owned business, and Florida Trend had a contest for Florida’s toughest boss. We entered my boss, and he won. I ended up quitting that job because he was so difficult—but it was a huge learning experience. I ran into him about six months ago and thanked him. I said, “Mark, you gave me a lot of early experience that, if I wasn’t working for someone, I wouldn’t have gotten.” He was tough—really tough.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
09:19-09:21

Yeah, go for it, don’t be shy!

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
09:21-09:46

“Effing asshole that you were.” I just learned a lot from him. He never apologized—he was just unhappy, so it made everyone around him unhappy, and he didn’t realize it. He was a smart businessman but didn’t have to be that tough.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
09:47-11:09

Yeah, I get it. I lead with a gentle hand—I’m usually jovial, though my employees might say otherwise. I’ve had bosses who made me feel expendable, like they didn’t care. I’m nice until someone tries to take advantage of me or talk down to me for no reason—then the “Irish Red Beard” comes out. I have no problem with constructive criticism, but there’s no reason to be nasty. You can learn from a tough boss, but at the time, you’re thinking, “How do I get out of this?” It’s not helpful for business if the boss is taking out their issues on employees, so you do learn what not to be.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
11:09-11:16

Exactly. You learn how to deal with difficult people—when someone’s toxic, you figure out how not to become toxic in return.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
11:16-12:10

Yeah, yeah. There are definitely valuable lessons in that. One thing I always think about is people who knock on doors—like Mormons, for instance. That’s a tough job, but it can make them excellent salespeople, because it’s so difficult. I grew up not Mormon, but I did knock on doors, and I hated it. Still, it put me in a position to learn how to work with or deal with people. A lot of interesting stuff came from it. I absolutely hated it, but I’m sure you went through similar moments—“Oh God, I don’t want to go into work because Mark’s there.” But you made it through, and it shaped who you are today. So that’s cool. Now, a question—are you still in Miami?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
12:10-12:25

No, I live in Celebration, Florida. If you haven’t heard of it, it’s in central Florida, five minutes outside Disney. It’s actually a Disney-developed town. I live in Disney World.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
12:26-12:35

Okay, interesting. I’ll skip over how I might read about that all day. So Disney made the development. Is it very Disney-themed?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
12:36-13:12

It’s not “Disney theme,” just developed by Disney. Everything’s kind of perfect—the architecture is beautiful. It’s a great town to live in, especially if you have kids, but it can be a bubble for better or worse. Disney started it about 25 years ago, and they’re not involved now, but they gave the land and had their hand in everything. So yeah, if you’re ever in the Orlando area, definitely come visit Celebration. It’s beautiful, and there’s an army of Starbucks. Anyone listening should check it out.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
13:12-13:44

Celebration—right. You said you didn’t like Disney put it together. I was thinking, what other name would you use for a town besides “Celebration”? It’s a perfect purchase, right? So tell us how your transition started. You mentioned Mark is infamous. Hopefully he’s nicer to people now. But how was your transition out of college to get where you are today? Obviously, there’s The Buyer Group, but give us a sense of your journey.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
13:44-16:00

Yeah, well, it’s amazing how every decision leads to a bigger picture. Right after school, the job market was rough, so I ended up taking an admin job at a company called Arvida—they were building a huge development in Florida called Weston. It was very entry-level, but the senior execs realized I was overqualified. They gave me small projects, and then somebody there knew someone, and I got hired as the first employee at a small PR agency. That was an awesome experience because I learned everything—A to Z—about how an agency works, from billing to admin to pitching.

My boss, Julie, was a former journalist, so she really taught me to think like a journalist in PR, which is something you don’t get unless you’re trained by a reporter or you do it yourself. That was the next step. Then I worked for the family-owned business, where Mark was my boss. After about a year, I quit that job with no backup. I started freelancing—not intending to start my own agency—but my first client ended up being Arvida. They heard I was freelancing, and it just snowballed into an agency. I picked up more clients, including different divisions of Arvida—their country club, their athletic club. Friends said, “You have a degree, why take an admin job?” But if you make the most of an opportunity, you never know what can happen. That’s how my agency began—landing those initial clients paved the way for new business and establishing myself.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
16:00-16:30

Yeah, that’s interesting. It’s funny because people might say, “You’re just an admin,” but if you have drive and someone in the company notices, you can move up fast. It’s about getting your foot in the door. Since it was a small company, they paid attention to you, so if you do that at a bigger company with 10,000 employees, it’s harder to be seen. I think it’s awesome you had all these different roles—admin, then more—that gave you valuable experience.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
16:30-16:45

Definitely. And that was my first agency that I started. I had a partner who was a graphic artist, so our differentiator was bringing branding to PR services. That set us apart from other PR agencies at the time.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
16:45-16:49

Gotcha. So, obviously lots of experience. How long have you had The Buyer Group?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
16:50-18:28

So The Buyer Group was established in 2005. Before that, my first agency was called L and L Communications—my partner was Lisa, L and L, you know. Then we had another partner buy in, transitioning to a new identity: Moxie Group. But those partners went a different direction, so I absorbed the clients and rolled them into The Buyer Group. It was perfect timing, because we’d attracted a lot of tech clients during the big dot-com boom and bust. We started doing PR for these dot-com clients, which was a critical turning point. We had to go from a normal PR agency approach—“You have a year or six months for a campaign”—to a more condensed timeline, because they were trying to secure investors quickly. So that taught me the digital side—using Google to leverage SEO with PR, before I really even knew what SEO was.

I saw the possibility of optimizing public relations with search. That led me to get proficient in SEO so I could apply it to PR. That was huge, and it’s not that different today, but some PR agencies remain archaic. They’re not really optimizing or leveraging search and social the way they could.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
18:29-18:54

Yeah, I think there’s a huge piece they’re missing. I know that firsthand because a lot of companies come to me and say they’re going to hire a PR firm, and I’m like, “But you’re a tech company…that’s a lot to ask unless they have those relationships.” A lot of it’s old-school PR, which can work, but you need to be savvy. Most of the time, you want someone who knows what they’re doing digitally. It sounds like you have both.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
18:54-19:37

Yeah, definitely. The difference between The Buyer Group and other traditional PR agencies is that we really use search and social as part of our PR strategy, as long as it matches the brand’s business goals. There’s also a huge opportunity in media outreach, which didn’t exist 10 years ago. Think about the number of blogs, the number of podcasts, the number of media outlets online—just visualize how much that has grown. It’s crazy. So there’s definitely still a place for media outreach and leveraging search and social to reach your audience—whether it’s journalists or personas—because that’s critical for connecting with people in an organic way.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
19:38-20:00

So, how did you—and obviously, you’ve authored, I think, well, you’ve got the Social PR Secrets. Was that the book you wrote? Because you said, “My God, there’s a huge need in the industry,” and maybe you felt like you needed to get some stuff out. Or was it more like, “Hey, I’m gonna develop this book as a lead generation thing so people can read it and say, ‘Lisa’s the one I want to work with’”? What was your purpose in writing it?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
20:00-21:05

Well, the first edition was published in 2013. It literally came from me repeating the same things to clients over and over—educating them. I did a lot of speaking and workshops, so I thought, “Instead of saying the same thing again, let me put it in a neatly packaged book.” It’s basically evergreen public relations with search and social tactics to get more exposure and reach, done organically. And sometimes you put a layer of paint on top. I was super excited, too, because for the fourth edition, Guy Kawasaki wrote the foreword. That was such an honor—he’s an icon, and also a believer in social media and the power of doing public relations the right way.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
21:05-21:36

Right—he’s definitely an advocate. He’s done a phenomenal job building a brand and putting it out there. Last I checked, things went pretty well. So we’ve talked about you rewriting the book, and obviously today’s topic is video content. What do you feel are the biggest places businesses are missing out when it comes to video content? Is there more to it than just producing videos? If you look at most businesses, what would you say they’re missing in their video strategy?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
21:36-22:54

Well, in general, I think most businesses aren’t taking advantage of video. That’s a decision they’re making. Video isn’t a secret; it’s not like chatbots, which some companies might not know how to use. But video is no secret, so not doing it is a conscious decision. If a brand isn’t doing video, somebody needs to handle that.

If you are doing video, the good news is not everybody else is doing it, so it’s not saturated. Of course, everything needs to be mobile-friendly now. I feel like brands should incorporate video in a way that makes sense for them, maybe starting small. One easy place to begin is Facebook Live—you don’t need special equipment. It’s free, you can do it from your phone or desktop, repurpose it, download it, upload to YouTube, or turn it into a podcast. There are so many ways to jump into video. Starting with something like Facebook Live is more saturated now than a year or two ago, but overall, video is not saturated yet.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
22:55-23:42

Yeah, I think that’s what I always tell entrepreneurs or instructors: it doesn’t have to be perfect. Your first video is probably going to suck—that’s just how it is. Like anything else, the hardest part is getting started. It’s like using Facebook Live: you click a button, you’re live, and there you go. You don’t have to spend ten grand or hire a big camera crew. You can do it with your phone—you can do anything. It’s pretty crazy. It’s about hitting that start button.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
23:43-24:10

It is. It’s hitting the start button. And I see this with larger companies—it’s harder for them to start because there are so many approvals needed. That’s going to hurt them, just like how bigger companies were slow to get into social. Not every brand was on social at first. They’d say, “Let the intern do it,” or, “We’ll wait on that,” but not investing is a mistake.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
24:10-24:33

Yeah, we know how that tends to go. So from a marketing perspective, if I’m a marketer and a company isn’t doing video, do you think the business perspective and the marketer perspective line up? Should they think, “We need to integrate video into our strategy?” Is it basically the same approach from both sides?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
24:33-25:11

Well, yeah, I think so. Using video to tell your story comes from a PR perspective. For instance, if you have news, you can hop on Facebook Live to announce it. Let the video help you share your news, as simple as that. Maybe you’re launching a book or a course. Using video, you can just announce it or go live, interact with your audience—ask them anything for 15 minutes. That’s a great way to have natural interaction with your audience.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
25:11-26:30

That’s awesome. I think we’ll talk more about that later, because it’s important to address how marketers or people doing a great job with video strategies handle it. But I wanted to ask you about a new project you have. You’re a bit crazy with projects, maybe like me—we can’t have enough, always stacking more. I don’t know if you’re on any medication, because I feel I should be. I might ask you that off-podcast.

Anyway, you have digital detox secrets, right? Tell us about that. Basically, it’s about being more productive and increasing happiness, because these days, digital is everywhere. There’s value to it, but it’s also like drinking from a fire hose—there’s so much out there, and it’s easy to get pulled in. I get these updates on my phone, “Hey, Shane, you were on your phone 17 hours this week,” and I think, “Oh my God, that’s so unproductive.” Some of it is responding to stuff, but I’m assuming it’s not all productive. How do you manage that? Are you being more productive but still including this stuff called life? That’s a big point—tell us about that. What’s going on there?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
26:30-28:22

So Digital Detox Secrets actually came about while I was writing Social PR Secrets. I was having trouble finishing that first edition, and a business coach advised me: “After you drop off your daughter at school, go straight to a yoga studio, then go directly to a coffee shop with your laptop, and write for two hours, three days a week.” I’d been working on the book for a year, and by doing that for 30 days, I finished the first edition. It showed me that sitting in front of a computer isn’t always enough—you have to create mental space so the writing can flow.

I have teenage daughters, and from a parent’s perspective, there’s a lot of stress and anxiety when it comes to social media. Even as a social media expert, I realized I couldn’t fully grasp what teenagers face with Snapchat, Instagram, and so on. That inspired me from a parenting standpoint. The book is divided into three sections—business, personal, and parenting. On the business side, it’s for entrepreneurs who need balance when everyone expects them to be online 24/7, or for a “mompreneur” challenged by work-life balance. Then there’s advice for parents looking to help their kids manage this digital life without depression, anxiety, and stress—because that’s very real.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
28:22-30:35

God, it’s crazy. Junior high and high school are already hard—especially for girls. Adding social media is another layer of pressure. At school, maybe you deal with a few people, but social media opens it up to the world. You can be bullied or harassed by anyone. At that age, you’re so impressionable—everything feels like the worst thing ever. If Johnny breaks up with you, it’s the worst day of your life. That extra layer is so confusing.

From a parenting angle, we don’t always realize how big that is. As an adult, I’ve felt that pressure—new platforms come out and you think, “I gotta be on this.” But sometimes, you don’t. For instance, TikTok might be huge, but if your demographic isn’t there, you don’t have to jump in. It’s just not realistic to be on ten thousand platforms.

That’s why I like the concept of a digital detox. My wife does it in a strategic way: we’ll go somewhere remote like Lake Tahoe, and 45 minutes in, there’s no reception. She’s like, “Oh, I didn’t know!” and I realize she’s pulling me off the grid. She’ll also joke about my laptop, calling it my “girlfriend.” If we won’t have reception, she says, “Don’t bring your girlfriend.” It’s a subtle way to unplug.

So how long have you been doing this detox thing?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
30:36-30:46

Well, I’m finishing writing it this summer, so I’ll send it off to the publisher at the end of July. Hopefully it’ll be out around September-ish.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
30:46-30:58

Okay, and I have another question. We’re gonna switch gears a bit—talk about video. What kind of videos do you do for yourself or for clients? I know you do a lot of video work.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
30:58-31:04

I do, yeah. It’s just part of the PR strategy, whether it’s for myself or for a client.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
31:04-31:18

Yeah, I gotta be on-screen for sure. But what kind of videos? I guess it depends on the client. But if you had to say, “Here are some types of videos—how-to, educational—what’s performed well?” Is there anything where you’ve said, “Wow, for these clients, we did these videos and it absolutely crushed it”?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
31:18-33:15

So I think what’s trending right now is either a docu series or a web series. One of my clients is launching a video called “Pay the Invoice.” She brought in seven agency owners and took them to New Zealand. Her name’s Cat—don’t ask how. She’s creating this docu series, launching “Pay the Invoice,” basically following her and these agency owners. She’s taking them under her wing to show them the ins and outs of running or optimizing an agency. I think it’s a great example of creating a docu or web series.

Another example: a bigger brand might be Deepak Chopra and Oprah Winfrey launching that 21-day meditation program. It’s free for 21 days if you start on Day One. Each day, you get new content; once it’s Day Five, Day One isn’t available anymore. So it’s basically an intro, and at the end, they can sell you the full package for $20.95 or something. You get to do it through that first launch free for 21 days. It’s not exactly video, but it’s the same idea as a docu or web series, dropping new content daily—there’s a beginning and end, or it’s part of a series (maybe it’s anti-aging). Each day focuses on a different subject, it’s free, then expires. If someone wants to buy the whole series, they can, plus they get different types of content. So the docu series is super creative, trending right now, and there’s a lot to learn from some of the major filmmakers doing it.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
33:15-33:53

Yeah, I didn’t know that about Oprah—I didn’t know they had that 21-day thing come out. That’s always awesome. It’s like if you don’t watch it in time, you miss out. By the end of 21 days, people have built a habit, so the likelihood they’ll pay for the next step is high. Imagine the conversion rate at the end of that thing—you’ve gone through 21 days, so on Day 22, you’re like, “What do I need to pay for this?” That’s how they hook you.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
33:54-34:22

Right, right. And then it goes beyond whatever that is—maybe they get more content or books that go along with it. And there’s also the retargeting opportunity for everyone who’s watched the video. It’s definitely something that’s trending. If you Google “docu series,” there’s not much info on it yet. That’s what I’m into right now.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
34:23-34:35

Yeah, absolutely. That’s awesome. So, who do you think is crushing their video marketing strategies right now? Who do you look at and say, “I need to be like that when I get older”—like they’re doing an awesome job?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
34:35-35:30

Well, I already mentioned: Digital Distillery, Cat House, Pay the Invoice—they follow that approach. I think it’s brilliant. GoPro is sort of the set that launched this whole video craze. If you go back and see how they did their video marketing—one thing they did was start every video with, “Hey, is this working?”—like it’s so real, it seems like a mistake. But then they released their intros and outros publicly so anyone could create their own GoPro video, using GoPro’s intro and outro. Suddenly they had all this incredible user-generated content that their brand lovers made. That’s brilliant.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
35:30-35:38

It doesn’t get better than that. You have people naturally putting out content, basically set up for success—it’s perfect.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
35:38-36:07

Yeah, exactly. They’re doing an amazing job. Another example of a docu series is The Sacred Science (sacredscience.com). They do a great job creating these videos—an hour of free video based on a theme, which becomes a free giveaway. Then it leads to, essentially, “If you can tell a great story, you don’t have to sell much.” That’s what they’re doing—storytelling.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
36:07-36:23

Exactly—making it easy is key. People are naturally lazy, so if you can make it a no-brainer to create content, it’s a win for the brand. The quicker and the simpler, the better.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
36:23-36:45

And you don’t have to be GoPro or have a huge budget. Just one easy way is creating something free, selling a related paid product. Like, I could do a 30-minute video sharing some of my Social PR Secrets—that’s free. Then the lead-up is buying the book. If you want more, you have to pay.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
36:46-37:38

It is a minute. It’s funny—we started that about seven or eight years ago with my blog. I said, “We need to give out more information, just everything,” and people were like, “You’re kidding,” but they end up knowing what we do. If they can read it and do it, they will. It doesn’t matter—at the end of the day, we just jumped into this thought leadership approach, giving info, pulling in leads if people want it. I don’t need to sell anything; I want them to go, “Wow, Shane’s pretty smart, maybe we reach out.” That’s how I got my job at UCLA—they reached out and said, “Hey, we want somebody who’s a personal brand, an influencer.” If I hadn’t put that content out there, no one would’ve knocked on my door.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
37:38-37:54

It’s very similar. That’s how I ended up teaching at UF for a few years, because I wrote Social PR Secrets. They didn’t want someone just teaching out of a textbook—they wanted somebody out in the field, a practitioner with real stories.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
37:54-38:09

Getting it done—that’s awesome. So what video marketing tools can you not live without? Is there anything besides Facebook Live you tell clients, “Do this, use these tools”?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
38:09-38:58

So BeeLive is my go-to for Facebook Lives. It’s a platform that lets you do different types of interviews—like a split screen, or a CNN-type setup where you can interview multiple people at once and have different sliders, telling a story during the video. That’s one tool. Another one is Lumen5. I don’t know if you’ve heard of it, but it’s amazing. A lot of clients or brands say, “We’re not doing video, but we know we should.” They don’t have the resources. Well, if you have a blog, you can put the blog post URL into Lumen5, and it creates a video from your blog post. It’s awesome—you should check it out.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
38:58-39:01

Wow, that might be my new best friend.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
39:01-39:12

Yeah, it’ll take your subheads and turn them into a short video. You can bring in images from your blog or stock images—it’s a no-brainer.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
39:13-39:21

I’m so excited about that I’m Googling it when we’re done here.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
39:21-40:21

Yeah, and my other little “hack,” you could call it, when I make my own videos: I’m part of several mastermind Facebook groups and will do office hours once a week. People come with questions, so instead of replying with a comment, I’ll create a video response. I try to be creative—I use Snapchat for filters and lenses. You can make a video selfie explaining something or answering a comment, adding a little creativity. You can do the same with Instagram or Instagram Stories. You don’t have to go live—download it to your camera roll, upload it elsewhere. I really love using video to walk through a proposal for someone—it adds a personal touch.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
40:21-41:23

I’m smiling because that’s what we do too. One of my favorites is Loom. I’ll say, “Okay, here’s the proposal. Hey guys, I’ll run you through it. John, hey, nice meeting you.” People watch the video, and it’s very personal. When you send a proposal, it’s easy for them to get confused on one part—but with a quick, two- or three-minute video, I can explain everything, let them know, “Hey, some people worry about this, but no problem.” It’s a great way to connect with people, adding a personal touch. Email is dry—this adds personality. I’m a Loom abuser: I might have 900 videos. Between my team and me, I’ll do a video for everything. If someone writes a long email, I’ll just answer in a video, “Hey guys, easier for me to do this than typing.” Then I send it over in a minute.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
41:23-41:30

So much easier. For sure, long emails are my pet peeve—I hate when people send me huge emails.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
41:30-42:26

It drives me nuts. There are few things that push me over the edge, but if you send me an email with, like, 19 questions, I shut down. I have a small attention span—you can tell from how I talk. I talk fast, I move fast, I’m always in sixth gear. But you asked me 19 questions, and it’s just too much. So I’ll assign it to a team member, say, “Hey, help me out with these 14, and I’ll answer five. Take what you know.” That’s just respect for my time as well. Why are you asking that many questions? We could do a quick call or something. Clients send 19 questions—now I secretly don’t like them. (Kidding.) But anyway, I don’t know why four questions end up in spam or get deleted. Maybe it’s weird. I don’t know who trained it to do that—maybe me.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
42:26-42:50

Yeah, and working with the media, brevity is key—you just get to the point. I put myself in the position of receiving emails; like you said, our bandwidth is whatever it is. The same goes for the media. So when I’m emailing clients or anyone, I’m trying to be respectful: “What’s the point?” We don’t need every tiny detail.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
42:50-44:05

Yeah, no—just keep it short and sweet. I love those emails. You don’t even need a period of time for me. Just hit me with facts. I don’t need a long story. One guy from an old business of mine used to send me these crazy long emails. His name is Jeff—I won’t say his last name—but he’d send these messages that put me into a tizzy, because he was super analytical, explaining everything like “Shane, I wanted you to read this.” Recently, I was sitting in my chair thinking, “Dude, just send me what you want. Hit me with a few questions.” It used to drive me nuts. I told him, “Hey, bud, I love you to death, man, but your brain’s very different from mine. If you ask more than four questions, I’ll have to heavily medicate myself.” I just need you to get to the point. He couldn’t do it, so eventually I fired him. That used to drive me nuts. I’m all for short and sweet.

So when we talk about video marketing, what’s the one thing you see marketers doing wrong—like, you watch it and think, “Gosh, I wish they’d stop doing that.” Anything get your goat?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
44:05-44:25

Well, I think when you see marketers or brands just trying to sell too hard, you don’t need to sell if you’re telling a good story. I got that idea from Ron Lynch—if you’re putting in a hard sell, you’re probably going to ruin the video.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
44:25-44:47

Exactly—people already know what you do. They can look you up, see your stuff, but if they want to ask about services, it should be icing on the cake. It’s about thought leadership, so later people think, “Oh, I might need Lisa—who I’ve been listening to for the last 50 videos,” right?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
44:47-45:08

Right. I mean, you should always be selling, but it doesn’t have to feel like that, right? It doesn’t have to come across that way. Just make it so they feel you’re giving them relevant, helpful content. One day, like you said, they’ll come to you and hire you.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
45:08-45:30

You have to realize it’s about them, not you. People might say, “I want to tell them what I do,” but nobody cares. Ten thousand other people do what you do, unless you’re doing something unique. But if they want to find you, they’ll find you. It’s really about being everywhere, so people can find you when they need you. You don’t need to overcompensate by telling people what you do every time you talk.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
45:30-46:21

Another mistake I see clients make is wanting everything perfect—they can’t go live or hit “play” until the lighting is right, they have the right camera, etc. It reminds me of SEO. People say SEO is super important. Yes, it’s high priority, but they’re not creating the time for it. Same with video: they know it’s critical, but they overanalyze it or aim for perfection, and then six months pass.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
46:21-46:39

Right. Perfection is the killer of any creative thing. So what’s this rumor—something about “FemaleDisruptors.com”? Tell me about that project, because obviously I didn’t get an invite, being a male. (I won’t hold that against you.)

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
46:39-46:42

Because it’s males who are Female Disruptors supporters!

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
46:42-46:47

Well, hey, there we go. All right, I’m in then. That’s all I had to do—ask on the podcast. Yeah, tell me a bit about your project.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
46:47-48:04

Yeah, so I got super inspired—slash very annoyed—when the #MeToo movement emerged. It touched home for me because, as a female business owner in the ’90s, I put up with stuff I shouldn’t have. That was one inspiration. Then there was the Dr. Ford/Kavanaugh situation, and I thought, “Okay, this is ridiculous,” and also equal pay. There are so many females disrupting in a positive way—so I’m featuring them on the site, whether they’re business owners, or disrupting corporate America. I want to highlight these women, lift them up. That’s number one. Number two is we’ll hold a virtual summit of these female disruptors, letting them share their “superpowers” to inspire other women (and men too). We’ll also feature men who support female disruptors. Men should get credit for helping, and we’re seeing change, but it needs to happen faster.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
48:04-48:17

Yeah, a bit slow, but sure. I have another question: how big is your team? Because you’ve got, like, 46 projects we’ve talked about that you’re launching this year—maybe more or less. So how big is your team?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
48:17-49:17

Yeah, so I have a staff of five. We’re a boutique agency. I also use a whole team of freelancers, depending on the project and client. I have someone who helps with my book publishing side of things and, for the female disruptors, I have a team that believes in it and helps lift it up. That’s not my main focus—the Buyer Group agency side is. But I’ve really been scaling that up over the past year and leveraging my brand with these passion projects. I just love doing things that are both inspirational and disruptive. I’m very passionate about digital and how it can take down walls, whether you’re a business owner or a parent or in a relationship. I feel like it’s my therapy, pulling these projects together—especially the female disruption thing.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
49:18-49:49

It just made sense. I think the key is having good partnerships. You don’t need to be in there every day, but have people who share your vision and help with those projects. You can’t be in the middle of every single project, but you can tell a lot of your projects are passion projects—something that whacks you over the head, and you’re like, “I have tons of time to do this, I’ll make it work.” Then you find out who’s behind it, and you get people who want to help. That’s awesome.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
49:49-50:18

Yeah, and it also develops the agency’s culture. And you attract what you put out. So you know, I’m big on health, wellness, yoga, meditation. I like to work with clients who believe in that or have the same vibe, or brands that I love to work with—like female disruptors. You attract like, so it’s part of the culture, in addition to being a passion project.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
50:18-50:42

Yeah, you put it out in the universe; it comes back. That’s awesome. I was raised by hippies, so I get all that—I’m from California, my family’s like, “Let’s sit and hold hands.” I’m a big hugger, so I’m all in for that. Big hug back to you. So tell us more: you talked about yoga, balance, the fun stuff. You’re also a certified yoga instructor. How often do you do yoga?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
50:42-51:09

I just did yoga today. I try to practice at least once a day, even if it’s five minutes. Not that I always do it daily, but that’s my goal. Some people say, “Oh, I don’t have time for yoga—it’s a 90-minute class,” but there’s a site called glow.com where you pick how much time you have and what level you’re at. I did 30 minutes this morning. They even have a five-minute class.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
51:09-51:54

Yeah, I didn’t say things that don’t let any of that hold you back—it’s the same idea with reading. People say, “Oh, I don’t have time to read for an hour,” but read for 10 minutes, or disconnect. Obviously, yoga helps with balance. I have mental instability from my jobs, so a lot helps me. I do Pilates—since I hurt myself in CrossFit, I can’t do intense sports now, so Pilates is awesome for the body. My core’s never been so strong. I could quit drinking beer—maybe there’s a six-pack underneath my summit. I’m confident we’re close to something protruding through. That’s awesome. And you have, like, a virtual event you’re doing for yoga, or something like that?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
51:55-53:00

Yeah, I was teaching a yoga and virtual reality class in AltspaceVR, but we’re taking a break for the summer. I work with a lot of disruptive brands, so AR/VR is definitely coming—nobody knows exactly when. This was a way for me to dabble in VR and AR, integrate yoga, and teach occasionally. It let me immerse myself in platforms like AltspaceVR or Facebook Spaces. I see it as getting my foot in the door from a social standpoint—educating myself without going crazy.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
53:00-53:18

So what do you do to recharge, beyond yoga? You talk about detoxing and yoga—do you go on a family vacation for two weeks with no internet, or what’s your secret?

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
53:18-54:38

I’d say it’s a mix. My husband and I are doing a 10- to 12-day European cruise soon, partly to force ourselves offline. The time difference alone helps us disconnect since everyone else here is online. We try to do something like that once a year. Besides yoga, I use CBD oil daily—it really helps with whatever my body needs. If I’m stressed, I’ll take a bit; if I need good sleep or focus, I’ll take it before bed. I’ve heard people calling meditation the new “superpower for CEOs.” Alongside that, CBD oil is part of this wellness-focused trend. Investors want companies with a healthy balance. For me personally, I’ve seen a definite difference since I started using it.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
54:39-55:19

It’s funny—I use CBD as well, partly because I had cannabis clients in the past. It’s helped me with sleep and general relaxation, since I used to work a lot. I mean, I worked 18 hours a day, which was super unhealthy—I was 30 pounds overweight. It’s interesting how you need that balance. I can tell from what you’ve shared that you’re always striving for that life balance, which is tough—because there’s always more to do.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
55:19-56:12

Also, just to your point, we both have that trait of juggling lots of projects. One thing I do, and did at the end of last year, was take inventory of what I’m actively doing or serving on. If it’s not serving me, then I shouldn’t be doing it. You can’t just keep saying yes. For example, I was on the board for the Celebration Foundation but realized I can’t do everything, so I resigned after two or three years. Sometimes you just have to say no, or you’ll burn out and spread yourself thin by doing everything for everyone else.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
56:12-56:26

So I need to learn how to look up library books and then say no. I don’t think I’ve ever done that, because my mom was like, “Do you ever say no?” and I might have once, but I probably called back to say I was kidding and I’d help.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
56:26-56:32

I think saying no is easier than undoing something you’re already involved in, you know?

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
56:32-56:38

Agreed. You get knee-deep in it, thinking, “Okay, how do I get out of this?”

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
56:38-57:09

Right. You kind of have to balance things. I just started reading fiction again. For the past 20 years, I mostly read business, health/wellness, or self-help books. Now I’m reading Big Little Lies, and it’s amazing—10, 15, or 20 minutes of reading puts you in another story, giving your mind a break.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
57:09-57:47

I have a funny one for you. These last two years, I’ve been reading biker gang books—no idea why. One was on the Mongols. It’s kind of an audible-type thing I switch to between business and self-help. It’s weird, talking about how the Mongols did whatever they did. Maybe I’ll jump to “gang lands” or something. I’m not into the violence; it’s just intriguing—outside my usual business or self-help zone.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
57:47-57:51

Yeah, so it took us a few years, right?

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
57:51-58:29

Yeah, who knows? Maybe I’ll join the Mongols one day and ride a motorcycle. Probably not. All right, so here’s our last question. If I gave you a card with a $50,000 limit on it—just for you—where would you go? What store would you max it out at? Or if it’s not a store, what would you do with it? Maybe a vacation for the family? Give me two or three ideas.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
58:29-58:54

Well, you said store, so if it was a store, I’d pick Neiman Marcus. But if it wasn’t a store, I’d definitely spend it on an experience—like travel. I think that’s something you need to give yourself, splurge on, and make time for. Some sort of experience—I’d invest and spend it on that. Makes total sense.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
58:54-59:00

Well, Lisa, thanks so much for coming on the podcast. Today was a pleasure, and have an awesome day.

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Lisa Buyer

Speaker 2
59:00-59:04

Thanks, Shane—thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Have a great day.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
59:04-59:05

All right, thanks, Lisa. Bye.

00:45
Lisa Buyer's Background and Early Life
03:05
Entreprenurial Journey of Lisa Buyer
16:43
Transitioning to Digital PR
19:38
Lisa's Book Writing Experience
31:30
Using Video Marketing Trends
36:46
Video Marketing Tools and Techniques
46:30
Female Disruptors Project
50:18
Yoga and the Rise of VR Technology
53:00
Lisa's Secret on Detoxifying
57:51
What would Lisa Buyer Buy With $50,000?
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