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I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard someone dismiss email marketing as “old-school” or “not worth it.” Email marketing is the underdog in digital marketing that just never dies. You can’t beat an inbox for connecting directly with your audience.

If you’re ready to find out why this method still reigns supreme, keep reading.

In this lesson, I explore the power and importance of email marketing as a reliable tool in a crowded digital landscape. We start by discussing why email marketing remains a cornerstone of digital strategies, highlighting its ability to drive conversions more effectively than social media. I also cover how to set up a successful email marketing strategy, from building a targeted list to defining clear goals and KPIs. By choosing the right tools and crafting engaging emails, you can ensure long-term success.

Start Reading Foundational Guide

In this lesson, we’ll cover the essential steps to building a successful email list from scratch. I’ll guide you through the importance of email marketing as a direct and controllable tool for business growth, and explore effective strategies for rapidly growing your list. You’ll learn the differences between single and double opt-in methods, how to select the right email service provider, and create compelling lead magnets. Additionally, we’ll discuss segmentation, automation, and best practices to nurture your list and maximize conversions.

Start Reading List Building

In this lesson, you’ll discover how email marketing tools can simplify and enhance your marketing efforts. I’ll guide you through key features to look for, including automation, segmentation, personalization, and analytics. You’ll learn how to choose the right platform based on your business needs and explore popular tools like Mailchimp and ConvertKit. Additionally, I’ll share tips for scaling your campaigns and avoiding common mistakes, helping you create effective email marketing strategies that engage and convert.

Start Reading Tools & Software

In this lesson, I will guide you through the essential components of writing better emails that engage and drive action. We’ll explore why email marketing remains a powerful tool, despite new trends in digital marketing, and how to craft emails that feel personal and authentic. You will learn how to write compelling subject lines, strong openings, and effective CTAs, while avoiding common pitfalls. I’ll also share strategies for growing and segmenting your email list to maximize relevance and engagement.

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In this lesson, I will guide you through the fundamentals of A/B testing in email marketing. You’ll learn how to optimize key elements of your emails, such as subject lines, CTAs, and design, to improve open rates, click-throughs, and conversions. I’ll walk you through setting up, analyzing, and iterating on tests, with a focus on avoiding common pitfalls. By the end, you’ll be equipped to make data-driven decisions to enhance your email campaigns and boost performance.

Start Reading A/B Testing & Optimization

In this lesson, we will explore how to effectively leverage email marketing as a reliable revenue engine. You will learn how to set clear objectives, build and segment your email list, and craft compelling emails that drive engagement. We’ll dive into measuring success through key metrics, discuss common pitfalls, and examine the balance between personalization and privacy. By the end, you’ll be equipped with actionable strategies to create, execute, and optimize your email marketing campaigns.

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Shane Barker
Digital Marketing Expert
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Useful Tips for Floral Ecommerce Businesses from Murali Nethi, Founder of SnapBlooms

Murali Nethi, founder of SnapBlooms, joins Shane Barker to share how florists can grow online without relying on middlemen. He talks about creating high-converting websites, simplifying e-commerce for non-tech-savvy shop owners, and building customer relationships through digital tools. With years of industry experience, Murali offers real-world advice for florists ready to modernize and take control of their online presence.

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Murali Nethi

Murali Nethi is the Founder and CEO of Hana Florist POS, an online marketplace that helps customers connect directly with local florists. Under his leadership, Hana has grown into a trusted platform, providing a seamless, cost-effective way to deliver fresh, handcrafted bouquets across the country.

Before launching Hana, Murali honed his expertise in software development, product innovation, and technology entrepreneurship. He held leadership roles in Silicon Valley, creating scalable solutions for diverse industries. Through these experiences, he recognized a need for a florist-focused approach to online flower delivery, pioneering a model that benefits both local businesses and consumers.

Murali continues to drive Hana’s expansion, empowering florists to establish a thriving online presence and reach new audiences. As a dedicated supporter of small businesses, he leverages technology to foster meaningful connections between florists and their communities. An advocate of future-forward tech, he also invests in solutions that enhance local commerce. His commitment to building community-centric solutions sets Hana apart in the competitive floral marketplace.

Episode Show Notes

In this episode of The Marketing Growth Podcast, host Shane Barker chats with Murali Nethi, founder of SnapBlooms and Hana Florist POS, to uncover what it takes to succeed in the floral e-commerce space. With over 15 years in web technologies and a deep understanding of the floral industry, Murali shares practical insights to help florists grow their online business, even if they aren’t tech-savvy.

From his early days helping his wife run a flower shop to building an e-commerce platform that generated $179 million in sales in a single year, Murali reveals how the right tools and marketing approach can transform a local shop into a scalable digital brand. He breaks down what many florists get wrong—like relying on middlemen or skipping SEO—and offers simple, actionable tips to build your own website, drive conversions, and retain customers.

Whether you’re a florist looking to go digital or a small business owner curious about building an e-commerce presence, Murali’s advice is grounded, relatable, and built on real-world experience. Tune in to learn how to ditch cookie-cutter templates, claim your customer relationships, and create a long-term online growth strategy.

Brands mentioned

  • SnapBlooms
  • Hana Florist POS
  • NASDAQ
  • Google
  • ShaneBarker.com
  • Satyam
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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
00:04-01:07

So SnapBlooms is a marketplace for flower shops. A flower shop can join our platform to sell their creative designs. The way we position ourselves is by marketing it for you. We bring you customers through the platform and your local SEO, and you keep most of the order. The customer chooses the flourish and places the order with you, so you get the customer and the order. We like to put it as not only bringing you orders, but also customers. You get the customer name, email, and phone number—they become your customer right away. Typically, once someone buys from you, they buy again if you are in the same local area and their loved ones are nearby. They’ll call you and buy from you. We have that capability built in. Our software includes features like reminders, getting reviews, emailing on email blasts, and loyalty programs to encourage repeat business.

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
01:09-01:22

Actually, from, I grew up in in a city called Hyderabad in India. It’s a it hub in India, and I grew up there, and I came to the United States about 25 years ago.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
01:23-01:26

Awesome, awesome. So you were there, and then how big was your family growing up?

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
01:27-01:32

I grew up in a really big family. I mean, I have seven siblings. I’m the youngest.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
01:32-01:38

It’s funny. So are you? Are you in the middle? Are you older, younger, or just kind of in the middle?

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
01:39-01:40

I’m the youngest.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
01:41-01:59

The youngest. Oh, so you were the last one to come, so you had all kinds of freedom compared to the first one born. Usually by the seventh, the family’s like, “Okay, he’s not going to hurt himself. He’s fine.” The first few survive; he should be good. That’s awesome. So you were the younger one always trying to hang out with the older ones. I get that. That’s awesome. So everybody was looking out for you.

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
01:59-02:08

Some advantages, so that you learn from your older ones, like, you know, what the mistakes they’re making, the, you know, the successes they have, you kind of rub off on you.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
02:09-02:37

Yeah, they laid the foundation for you. So that was a good thing. I was the older one, so my brother came in behind me, so I laid a little foundation too. He’s still gotten in a little bit of trouble, but I told him, “Hey, don’t do this. Don’t do that. This is what mom and dad don’t like,” so we’re able to work some things out there. So that’s awesome. So you, obviously, the place where you’re at in India was a huge tech hub. Any other interesting facts growing up? Anything fun, interesting that you can tell us about?

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
02:39-03:07

There is this very popular, one of the world’s largest diamonds, mined in India from around that city. It’s called Koh-i-Noor. That diamond is right now in the Queen of England’s crown. It changed hands over a few centuries, and finally ended up in British hands during colonial times. At one point, it was the largest in the world.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
03:08-03:10

That’s incredible. Do you have any idea how much it’s worth?

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
03:14-03:27

I’m not sure. But then when it was mined, they used to say, “You throw a stone in all four directions, and if you find gold in all directions, that’s how much it’s worth.” They just couldn’t put a value on it.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
03:31-03:42

Oh my gosh, that’s incredible. And so the Queen of England, I can only imagine she probably can’t even pick that up. That sounds too heavy. That’s an incredible diamond.

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
03:42-03:50

It bring it out during the like the ceremonial things, and they put it in the crown, and then they display it for in the museum most of the time.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
03:50-04:01

That’s awesome. That’s an interesting fact. And so are you. You’re currently not in India, right? You moved here about 25 years ago. You live in, is it Maryland? I think you’re in Maryland, aren’t you?

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
04:02-04:13

Yes, yeah, I currently, I’m in Chicago, but I lived most of the time in Maryland, and we’ll be going back to Maryland. It’s about 40 minutes from Washington, DC.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
04:13-04:43

Wow, that’s awesome. It’s funny, my dad—literally, he’s in Chicago as we speak. He just bought an RV on the East Coast and was driving across—I talked to him this morning. He said Chicago is amazing. He just went to a White Sox game, went on a food tour, and is on an adventure right now. I’m a little jealous. I got that traveling bug from my dad. And anytime I call him to find out what he’s doing, he’s always on an adventure. He’s a huge fan of Chicago. He said nothing but that it’s a beautiful city and the weather right now is really nice.

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
04:44-04:51

It’s really nice. You get a very little good weather. But when it is good, you know it really, can really enjoy it.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
04:51-04:56

Take advantage of it. Yeah, absolutely. So let’s talk about so where did you Where did you go to college, at?

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
04:57-05:13

That was also in Hyderabad. I went to one of the premier institutes in Hyderabad. I did my computer science in Hyderabad. And my first job was in Hyderabad through one of the major IT companies called Satyam at that time.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
05:15-06:05

So that’s awesome. You jumped right into it because, obviously, when you said it was an IT hub, you were attending one of the best universities in your city. Then you jumped into this. I think it makes total sense—the reason why you have a POS system and why you’re working with software is a natural fit for you. That is awesome. I want to talk about your expertise because you’ve been doing this for a while, and you’ve got some good things going on. We kind of teased about this earlier on the podcast, and now we’ll let everybody know. I want to talk to you just about the e-commerce platform and the best technology for that. So, how long have you been in the e-commerce space?

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
06:06-06:30

It’s been more than 15 years, actually. All through my career, right from when I started my first career, I’ve been in web technologies, including web portals for big corporate clients like NASDAQ, and I’ve been in consumer B2C e-commerce solutions for almost 15 years now.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
06:31-06:35

Wow, that’s incredible. So, yeah, a little bit of time, a little lot of things have changed in 15 years, huh?

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
06:36-06:47

Oh, yes, yes. From the days of spamming, backlinking and page ranking to now, everything that worked a long time ago doesn’t work anymore.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
06:48-07:14

Good old days. Yeah, if I could—obviously, as a podcast, nobody can see how much you and I are smiling when you were saying that—but it was a lot easier back then. I’ll tell you, those were the good old days. We always say that’s when you’re getting older, when you say, “Oh, the good old days we could spam people and get backlinks and stuff.” That’s when we were aging ourselves a little bit, my friend. But that’s okay. That’s alright. We’ve been around for a while. So how did you come up with the idea to start Hana Florist POS? Give us that little background story.

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
07:15-08:42

So sometime in 2010, my wife got into the flower industry for about two years. I used to help her with managing operations, planning, accounting, and running the whole show more efficiently with technology. And that’s how I realized the monopoly the big companies have in the flower industry, and that local florists were mostly getting their orders through middlemen. Unless you really invest in marketing and launch your own website, there’s a significant gap and challenge for local flower shops. At that time, I saw that most websites were looking the same—cookie cutter templates that didn’t do much marketing. Even now, a huge chunk of flower shops don’t do much marketing, and some don’t even have a website. So I thought there was a good scope to fill that gap by offering a cutting edge SaaS product and providing digital marketing expertise.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
08:44-09:54

So, I mean, that’s all encompassing. It sounds like what you did was you looked at the obvious problem in the industry and thought, “Wow, there’s an opportunity to disrupt some stuff.” You came in and said, “Hey, we understand the industry—we’ve been doing this for two years—and let’s create some software.” So your wife said, “All right, honey, go create some software.” That sounds like a plan. Let’s make it happen, right? Let’s figure out our profitability, increase things, and help florists. I have a few clients that are florists as well, and margins are thin. I mean, you don’t have to create any extra, depending on what you’re creating. But the problem is, once you add on marketing and try to do that kind of stuff, most of them are like a restaurant where the chef is phenomenal at food but not great at marketing. It’s the same thing with flowers. It’s like, “Hey, I could make the best-looking arrangement,” and you go, “Oh my God, that’s amazing, but what’s SEO? I don’t want to deal with any of that. I just want to arrange flowers, right? I just want people to come in.” And I think, because of COVID and everything that’s happened recently, there’s been a huge need to put stuff online. And you guys—when did you, Hana Florist, start doing the POS and stuff? When, what? How many years ago was that?

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
09:55-11:16

That was in 2013, late. 2013 is when we had our first client. And the product actually matured quite a bit. I mean, if you see it from when we started to now, it’s a completely new product. So yeah, and you’re right. Also, just following up on what you were saying about the flower industry—everybody who sees it from outside thinks it’s a beautiful business. But when you’re in it, in the middle of flowers all day, a lot of it is actually technology. You’ve got to go to the client and be there; all of them are online nowadays, and if you’re not there, the clients are not going to walk in. People no longer walk into flower shops and buy flowers—they just want to order it on their phone. So that’s all technology. And unfortunately for the flower industry, most of the florists are, demographically, a little behind the curve, and they’re not comfortable with technology. They’re not comfortable with words like SEO; digital marketing is all Greek and Latin for them. And that’s how they lose out, because a lot of them still think, “I’ve been doing this for 30 years. People are ordering flowers for me. Why should I now have a website? I have everything that I need, and that’s how I’ve operated for 30 years.” So that’s where the challenge lies.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
11:17-11:33

Yeah, it’s called change, and unfortunately, it’s going to happen with or without you. So you adapt and figure out how to integrate technology into your mix. Otherwise, the guy who opened up one year ago is going to look bigger than you online, even though you’ve been around for 30 years. That’s what it comes down to.

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
11:33-11:40

Either that. Or you end up filling orders for people who are, you know, that are good, that are, and you go to the middleman.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
11:41-11:59

Yeah, that’s what it is. It’s a lead generation thing. So if you bring in the leads, guess what? Now you’re doing wholesale stuff, which doesn’t have great margins. But if I can bring in leads and bring them to you, and you do the designs or the arrangements, then it’s a win-win. But you don’t want to be doing wholesale, because while it’s not bad, it doesn’t bring in as much money.

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
12:00-12:11

Right, exactly. They take all the margin. They just give you the order, so, and you’re also not getting the customer. They only get the order, and then the customer still remains with the person who actually generated the order.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
12:11-12:30

Yeah, so you’re always there. They don’t always need you, but you always need them. That’s the problem. So let’s talk about that. Let’s talk about if I’m a florist and I want to create my own e-commerce platform. What are the steps you need to take to launch an e-commerce platform? What would you recommend?

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
12:31-12:34

So you’re referring to from the perspective the Florist?

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
12:35-12:37

I would think, so, yeah, because…

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
12:39-14:45

So, I mean, right now, flower shops have a lot of options out there. There are a lot of providers who will set up the website for you and provide the product catalog for you. And from a florist perspective, there are a lot of options out there to set up your website and just go live within 48 hours, you’re up and running. But then the challenge lies in picking the right provider who’s going to give you that creative designs, creative product catalog, and also the site has to be state-of-the-art and optimized for Google. A lot of sites still, we see a lot of providers out there in the market right now, they still give you a cookie cutter design, and also they are, Google in the last two years—if you’re not loading fast enough, it’s not even one second, half a second makes a huge difference. People are just going to walk away from you. So that’s the first thing. Look at the options available out there, and who can give you the entire solution for you? Not only just host the site, but can they manage it easily? Can they maintain it easily? Can they market it, or is the provider going to help you in marketing it for you? So those are some of the basic leg work that you need to do, and the provider will do that for you. And running a flower shop is very labor intensive work. A typical florist actually wakes up at six in the morning, opens the door, processes the flowers, designs everything and all that, and you don’t want to be responsible for managing your website, loading the products, changing the pricing, and uploading pictures and all of that. They just don’t have the bandwidth for that. Yeah, so go with the provider who is going to be able to do that, give you that comprehensive solution, which will give you the whole thing end to end. That’s what Hannah does. We give you the business management software, along with the website, web technology, e-commerce platform, and with the digital marketing building.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
14:46-15:51

And I think that’s the key. That’s the hard part: who do you trust, right? But you guys have been doing this for eight years, right? And you guys are in the industry. This isn’t software that you built out of the blue and said, “Hey, let’s see what industry this is going to be best for you guys.” I have a florist shop and built this because you said, “Hey, listen, here goes the need, and this is what we’re looking for.” So you actually were making it happen. And I think that’s the biggest problem with most florists or even anybody I talk to when it comes to, “Hey, who should I go with?” They look at the site and say, “Well, that site looks okay. I guess it should be fine.” But there are so many other variables beyond just looking good—user experience and SEO are a lot more important than what you think the website looks like. If you like websites from 10 years ago and you’re like, “Well, it’s a template. It’s fine,” maybe it’s not fine, right? That’s the problem. But how do they know that? They’re like, “I’m great,” right? That’s the biggest problem. It’s like, “Well, I don’t know what to go for. I have no idea, and I don’t really want to know. I kind of need to know, but I just want somebody to take care of me, right? I don’t want that to be a headache, right?” That’s what we’re looking at. I think you talked about that being that bandwidth.

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Murali Nethi

Speaker 2
15:52-17:20

Right. Yeah. And also, a typical sales call with us is not about selling our stuff, it’s more about educating the Florist about what they need, what the other competitor can do, cannot do, and what needs to be happening. A lot of times we deal with questions like, “Why should I need a website?” “Why should I do any marketing? I mean, they can find me. They will come and buy flowers from me. Why should I buy it?” A little bit more savvy florists ask us things like, “They all look the same, it’s just pictures and click a button. What’s the difference, right?” So a lot of our consultation and sales calls are about educating them and giving them infographics and telling them, “This is the difference. It has to load faster, this is where it is. And you have to be able to manage the content and talk about their service and their local delivery area and all of that.” So those are the ones which win you the business. And also the efficiency of completing an order is most critical. Our flower shop websites have a typical conversion rate of 10 to 15%; it’s mind boggling for an e-commerce site to have that kind of rate. We do that because we know the ins and outs of it, and we know how to optimize it, and we know how to prevent people from leaving the cart in the middle and leaving your site.

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Shane Barker

Speaker 1
17:20-18:21

Yeah, that’s awesome. I mean, that’s such a huge piece of it. And once again, I talked about florists—or really, anybody, most of the time, people just put up a website to have a presence. They don’t understand the talks about the UI and UX and the experience that people have, and the conversion rate. Last time I checked, 2% is bad and 15% is great. I mean, if we just talk about numbers, most businesses don’t think that. I know marketers that get it, but don’t really get it right. And you guys have really specialized yourself and said, “Listen, because obviously the difference between 7% and 8% and 9% and 10% and 20% is huge,” and you guys are able to do it because you’re in the business every day and have been doing this for eight years. I think that’s awesome.

Thanks, listeners. Now you know what it takes to run, manage, and grow a floral e-commerce business. On the next episode, we’ll talk about making the most of whatever you’ve got. SnapBlooms CEO Murali Nethi will join us again to share how he launched the marketplace during the pandemic. Don’t forget to tune into the Marketing Growth Podcast.

00:04
Introduction to Murali Nethi & SnapBlooms
01:09
Growing Up in Hyderabad & Early Influences
02:09
Lessons Learned from Growing Up in a Large Family
03:30
The Evolution of the Florist Industry & Digital Transformation
06:15
How SnapBlooms Helps Local Florists Increase Sales
08:45
Future of E-commerce & Growth Strategies for Florists
This Isn’t a Sales Funnel, It’s a Partnership

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